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  1. ThePatriotMuckraker at |

    Israeli Animals. No more money and wars for this rouge apartheid terrorist state.

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    Will leFey Reply:

    I know rouge is a typo, but wow, truth in typos ahoy.

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  2. profnasty at |

    By their fruit you shall know them.

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    Henrik Blunck Reply:

    Sure. That’s why you can recognize courageous Arab soldiers. They are so bold as to hide amidst civilians…

    A lot of army history is apparently unknown to those who can’t read – and consequently they rely upon what they are told more than what the actual truth is.

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    Yazan Reply:

    oh shut the ef up!

    so what is the real story? how can you, with a rational mind, read up on a 13 year old child being ripped by bullets and dare to mention that it wasnt a disgusting thing to do?!

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    Chickasaw Chief Reply:

    Most of the Arab countries that were under colonial (European) powers in the 19th and 20th centuries liberated themselves with own soldiers who were poorly armed compared to the Europeans. One example, is Algeria that lived under the brutal french occupation for 132 years (1830 to 1962) and paid a heavy price (1.5 million Algerians killed) during the war for independance from (1954 to 1962). In the west, they do not teach history, they teach pr
    altered history. That’s why you will not hear a single positive thing about Arabs. Most of the Americans don’t even know that
    Arabs represent the majority of the Semite people (more than 90%). Therefore anti-Arab is anti-Semetism. I laugh when I hear some people say “anti-semetic Arab”… but the word anti-semetic has been corrupted, even in the western dictionaries. We have to understand that only justice will bring peace.

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    Mark Elf Reply:

    Chickasaw Chief, I don’t know where you get your information from but the word “antisemitism” was first used by a European who hated Jews because he said they were semitic people and that therefore to hate Jews on “racial” rather than religious grounds is to be antisemitic. The guy probably never knew any Arabs or any other people from the middle east. He knew Jews and didn’t like them and he invented the word “antisemitism” to describe his belief.

    I don’t know why you want to play silly games over the meaning of a word especially in a reply to a supporter of the people responsible for killing a 13 year old girl who was standing alone when she was killed.

    As it happens, the word “semitic” is meaningless as it is derived from the 19th century European idea that humanity is sub-divided into races based on descent from the sons of Noah. Under this ludicrous idea, “semitic” people are said to be the descendants of a son of Noah called Shem. So antisemitism isn’t a very good word for what it means but what it means is what the man who invented the word said it means, the hatred of Jews on racial grounds. I prefer the expression “anti-Jewish” because it avoids time-wasting contributions like yours. By the way, the Websters dictionary does have a bogus definition of antisemitism but most English dictionaries define it in line with what its inventor said.

    The idea that there is such a thing as a Semite is simply wrong. It is meaningless. It owes its origin to 19th century racial mythology and should have been left in the 19th century. Unfortunately it persisted into the 20th century and even beyond. Have you ever considered what “semite” actually means? I think you have fallen for western thinking more than you realise.

    There is another problem with your definition of antisemitism. When zionists accuse critics or opponents of Israel of antisemitism they are lying because people tend to oppose Israel, not because it is Jewish but because it is based on colonial settlement, ethnic cleansing and racist laws. There is also the relentless violence and the expansionism to consider. But according to you, you are not antisemitic because Arabs are semitic. You are not denying being anti-Jewish. But if Palestine is to be a country for all of its people and not just for Jews, then what becomes of Jews if supporters of the Palestinians can only deny antisemitism by re-defining it? This kind of thing engenders support in the west (and elsewhere) for the racist war criminals of the State of Israel.

    It’s far better to be sensible and accept the limitations of language rather than make things up. You make yourself look silly, dishonest and racist and you discredit the Palestinian cause.

    There is another thing you have got wrong. It is not only justice that brings peace. Sound arguments for justice are a pre-requisite. If you play silly word games it looks like you don’t have a sound argument even against a guy (Henrik Blunck above) trying to justify Israel’s murders of children.

    Sorry to be harsh but you’ve tried to be clever and simply shown yourself to be a rather stupid paranoid conspiracy theorist. You need to focus on what is relevant and don’t be making things up.

    Chickasaw Chief Reply:

    Semetism is related to languages, not race, religion or ethnicity. Aren’t Arabs the majority of the Semite people? If yes, then anti-semetic must mean anti-Arab. Isn’t his logical? How hard is it to understand? We have to use our brains, not what others say. It’s not because everybody does something wrong that it’s OK to do the same, it’s still wrong.
    Conspiracy theorist? that’s funny. Nowadays, there are so many conspiracies: Irak’s incasion was a conspiracy. Remember how the Bush administration sent Colin Powell to the UN? He showed the whole world “material evidence” that Iraq had WMD. 911 was another one: How did Building 7 collapse without being hit by anything? Wake up.

    Mark Elf Reply:

    I’m wide awake in spite of you trying to send people to sleep with your stupidness.

    Zion refers to a hill in Jerusalem, that does not mean that zionism is about hills. You said that western dictionaries lied about antisemitism but where is there a dictionary that defines antisemitism as you do? The guy who invented the term “antisemitism” defined it just like the man who invented the word “quiz” defined that unless you want to argue with him too. And what has this got to do with the racist war criminals of Israel killing children anyway? We have a word for the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from Palestine and their replacement by Jews. It’s called zionism. Not antisemitism. Also, if you insist on defining antisemitism by logic, it is not against Arabs or Jews but against “semitism” and what on earth does semitism refer to? Er, nothing. It’s a stupid word but its inventor defined it as opposition to Jews. He could not have logically have been referring to Arabs because there were none in his experience. Perhaps you will say that there is no such thing as anti-black racism since there is no such thing as race and no one is actually black, or white for that matter.

    If you are trying to say that opposition to the State of Israel is anti-Jewish but not antisemitic then there may be a point to what you are saying. But that would simply bring discredit to a worthy anti-racist cause. I think you trying to smarter than you are.

    Semitic used to refer to languages until it was discovered that so-called “Hamitic” languages were closely related to so-called “Semitic” ones. And anyway, you are confusing etymology with meaning.

    I well remember Colin Powell’s address to the UN. I know, as almost everyone does, that there was no justification for the Iraq war. We don’t need far flung conspiracy theories to know that. The UN was not persuaded by Colin Powell’s dishonesty and still the US went ahead with the invasion of Iraq. So why go to such extraordinary lengths to frame an enemy when the US as the sole hyper-power can do what it wants anyway?

    There is enough straight evidence in the public domain to demonstrate the sheer wrong-doing of the USA and its allies and the illegitimacy of the State of Israel without playing silly word games. All the evidence is on the surface so no need to be digging.

    Stop digging and work with what we have.

    Chickasaw Chief Reply:

    You still have not answered my question: Are the Arabs Semites people or not? The illegal and inhumane invasion of Irak was a conspiracy. The US foreign policy is terrible: always messing with other countries (especially the third world countries with natural resources). Do you know how many governments the US
    have overthown with conspiracy…. (from the queen of Hawaii to Irak).

    If you listen to the US corporate media (CNNFOXNBCABCCBS@#$%&*^!..) you will never learn anything real or true. It’s just propaganda.
    Stay cool and best regards :-)

    Mark Elf Reply:

    Oh dear CC, you seem to have degenerated from stupidness to dishonesty. I answered your question before you even asked it. I made it clear from my first comment in this sub-thread that I believe the whole notion of “semitic” people to be tosh, rubbish, bollocks. Both “semitic” and “antisemitic” are 19th century European inventions. Semitic is based on the idea that there is a race of people descended from Noah’s son Shem. Hamitic, from his son, Ham. All a load of bollocks. (I’m sure I said all this already) Go look them up.

    If you can find evidence to support your own assertion that antisemitism had some other meaning than anti-Jewish and that western dictionaries lied about that then I’ll be sure to apologise. But of course I won’t be apologising because you simply made it up because you confused etymology with meaning and for some reason you think it’s important. I think it’s important that principled anti-racists not waste their time on stupidness.

    But you have refused to answer my question about where you read that “antisemitism” means hatred of people known as “semites”.

    I am no friend of American imperialism or of Israel and you have no reason to suppose that I am. I have said that US foreign policy (and domestic policy for that matter) is bad enough without getting into far flung conspiracy theories. You certainly have no grounds to assume that I believe the mainstream media. I know that America has overthrown many governments and that conspiracies have been involved. But these are facts, not theories.

    I have said that when zionists accuse their opponents of antisemitism, they are lying by accusing legitimate critics, opponents and even their victims of subscribing to some kind of racism against Jews. If they lost the argument over the word antisemitism then they could simply move on to using the expression “anti-Jewish racism” and, of course, sometimes they do. They would still be lying. You are so stupid you don’t think to deny their allegation of racism. You get into a semantic argument about a word you have unilaterally attributed a new meaning to.

    I still say, the best way to proceed is to appeal to public opinion on the basis of demonstrable facts, not theories. And don’t get drawn into semantic arguments.

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  3. humancitizen at |

    Now if the Tea Party would protest all the money we give to Israel to keep their apartheid state going I would be all for them. I still think the best solution should have been implemented long ago—one state for Jews and Palestinians living together—that’s something I could have supported.

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    Henrik Blunck Reply:

    That will be possible the day Palestinians will stop relying upon Hamas, and begin moving towards peace in COOPERATION with Israel. Not any day sooner…

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    Paul Reply:

    Palestinians moving towards peace and not relying on Hamas. I think peace will only come when zionists stop occupying more and more land that does not belong to them. Jews were given a homeland (Europeans, Local Jews lived happily in Palestine), rightly or wrongly, and that should have been enough but it wasn’t, the Zionists moved in and have continued with an illegal, brutal land grab ever since. If I came to your house with a big gun and started to move your fence line so your property got smaller and smaller how long would it be before you pushed back?

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  4. XYZ at |

    Sooner or later, the parasitic Israel will pay for all it has done.

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  5. Time to form up a U.S. Grand Jury, and present 9/11 truth facts for them to consider indictments against the ZIONISTS in the U.S. Government who aided and abetted the TREASON on Sept. 11, 2001.

    Following their conviction, for criminal conspiracy both before and after the fact, they should be remanded to the Military Brigage at Ft. Leavenworth, KS, for summary execution.

    Considering the nature of their crimes, the only fitting punishment is Death by HANGING or FIRING SQUAD.

    this goes for IDF personnel who constructively aided and abetted these murders on Sept. 11th., 2001.

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    Robert Latimer Reply:

    I agree entirely, but wouldn’t an International Grand Jury would be more appropriate. Then there would be no fear of interference from people whose self interests are at stake.
    Something definite must be done to rectify these murdering bastards misdeeds.

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  6. pete at |

    Whats a little girls life. Its not hard to understand why the Arabs hate the state of israel. shame – shame -shame on Israel & the United States who do not dare to criticize Israel. whatever happened to our country.

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  7. EmeraldIsle at |

    I’m so sad about the death of this little girl that the anger I had inside me was completely neutralized itself. What kind of evil disgusting world do we live in when an innocent child can be butchered and the perpetrator of this crime walk away scot free?? A travesty of justice of the worst kind. RIP little Iman, and also RIP little Ahmad Husam Yousef Musa a nine 9 year old child who died by being shot in the head in 2008 by an IDF soldier as he hid behind a fig tree. You children are not mere statistics and we will not forget about you. There are people all over the world who love you so much and and feel so angry and distraught against what you had to endure. God protect your innocent little souls. X

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  8. Chickasaw Chief at |

    This reminds me of the case of a 10-year old Palestinian boy who was beaten to death by an Israeli man who crushed his head with the butt of his riffle …. the Israeli court “punished” the Israeli killer with 2 weeks of community services… There is nothing worse than injustice.

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    EmeraldIsle Reply:

    That is so evil I can hardly speak! I hope that MF burns in hell for eternity!!

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  9. Dawoodi Morkas at |

    If Iman could be killed so would the daughter of any Jew, who walks in sight of a Muslim!!!

    Horondous!!!

    Such incidences makes the Muslims take arms for the protection and revenge of the innocent blood.

    Dawoodi Morkas

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  10. Pete at |

    Another piece of a palestinian lies and propaganda aimed at the weakheaded useful idiots.

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    yazan Reply:

    lies? wtf?

    so the court held by israel was part of that Palestinian lie?

    are you stupid?

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    pete Reply:

    pete, I wish you would change your name because some of my friends on this site might mix you up with me. Use something like pete. friend of zionist assholes

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  11. Paul at |

    So pointless. I am British but live in New Zealand. The news in New Zealand last week covered the killing of some settlers (illegal occupiers if you like) but things like this little girls murder get ignored. Why will the West not see the real horrors of the Middle East. The Zionist secular Government of Israel is bloodthirsty and vicious, it needs to be stopped. The US and Europe need to cut all military and financial ties with this rogue state. Israel you are nothing more than a facist state, you are run by the 21st centuries answer to the Nazi’s and shame on all those who continue to support it.

    I beg the West, stop supporting Israel.

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  12. Mark Elf at |

    This story is almost 5 years old. If anyone bothered to follow the link to the Guardian they would see that for themselves. There is no shortage of Israeli atrocities since this particular one so what has made this story make such a comeback? I’m guessing a lazy blogger googled “Israel” or “Israel kills child”. If they had followed through they would have seen that the story actually got worse. The soldier that killed Iman was actually compensated for what the army had put him through. He received NIS 80,000 plus NIS 2,000 for legal fees. That was in 2006a.

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  13. Fupi Matata at |

    This is whats our ex Prime Minister tells us to support. Inhumane killing of innocent schoolgirls going to school with their school bags.This is what he wants us to support his attack on Iran,which is out to protect these Palestinians.
    what will he answer Jesus Christ when Tony tells him he was doing it in Jesus’s name for justice,and surely Jesus will tell this professed catholic ‘You are none of mine,get away from me,Tony Blair’s accumulated wealth will not help him then

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  14. Stan Squires at |

    I am from vancouver,canada and i wanted to say that this is a typical response from an apartheid gov to the killing of a Palestinian girl.There is a conference comming up in montreal,canada next month on israeli apartheid with people from around the world attending it.This conference will expose the many crimes of the apartheid israeli gov. to the world.This is the kind of actions that need to be taken in support of the Palestinian Peoples struggle against apartheid.

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    paddy Reply:

    The first action that needs to be taken is to educate people to the indisputable fact that jews are not God’s chosen people. To this end I have assembled information at whatisknown.com and I go a step ahead by showing that the next action must be to let those who support and cower to Israel that we have a way to defeat them. Most people are unaware of the massive potential to defeat those who think they can hold seven billion people in slavery. At the same site if you visit the /video.html page you will see the corruption in British Columbia laid bare. You have false ID in the form of a BRITISH COLUMBIA driver’s licence.

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  15. Gaye at |

    Stan, how many different nations live in Israel, including Muslims who do not want to leave, how many happy nations live in Arab countries who are non Muslims.???

    You guys on here are amazing, why do you think that this tiny little nation which is no bigger than Lake Michigan and is surrounded by trillions of Muslims who openly say that they want to slaughter all who live in Israel, would be the problem.. The media does not report the barrage of rockets poured into Israel every day and those killed by them,,, WHY not??? why do they not report the aid and medical supplies that Israel send out to those who want them dead???, why do they only report distortions??? and why should they give back to the Arabs the land which much of which they brought or the land that they won in battle, battles that the Arabs started..

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    Paul Reply:

    When Israel was formed in the late 1940′s they were given land that did not belong to them in the first place. The zionists then continued to take even more land by force from Palestinians that were not ready for (or expecting?) any trouble. You can check that out, the zionists committed ethnic cleansing and murdered whole families (why not read Blood Brothers by Elias Chacour, a Christian Minister). In Europe even during the 1990′s people were arrest for war crimes for doing this. In this case the US (and Europe) allowed this to happen. Today even more land is being taken illegally (look at the security wall in the west bank, I say “in” because it does not follow the border)with settlements. I am not against Israel, I am against a zionist secular state that hides behind the Jewish religion and commits crimes of hate. What would you have the Palestinians do under such provocation? Again I do not agree with violence from either side but I think the US supplied IDF (defence force, that’s another good one!) does a fair bit more damage to the Gaza strip than the rockets fired at Israel. The reason very little mention is given to these attacks is because very little damage is done.

    As for Iran, well it is not the greatest place on earth but again do not get mixed up between Jews and Zionoists, Iran hates the zionists.

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  16. nick lankester at |

    There are many spiritual books around from the realm of spirit, that from which reincarnation is determined that say that since WW2 many of the souls that were nazis in germany have reincarnated in israel; partially because they think (on that level) that they need to balance a karma.. except when they get here their energy returns to the psychopathic state it was when they were last here and they continue being psychopathic, heartless and in denial.

    these people are barely functioning as human.. barely anything beyond robotic killing zombies.

    if there is not active involvement to help them heal and open their heart there will be much more of this to come.. in fact there is no other solution to it.

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  17. Chickasaw Chief at |

    Israel is a professional terrorist state. Because israel has nuclear weapons and the most sophisticated weapons (provided by Europe and US), israel committs atrocities and genocides with no worries. The palestinians do not have a single warplane or tank to fight back. Even the extremist settlers have more weapons than the entire palestinian population. Give the palestinians some good weapons (nuclear weapons, F-16 and nuclear submarines etc …) like israel and they will liberate themselves from the holocaust. The west is too afraid of Israel.

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  18. A.M at |

    thats show how israel is afraid of the arab they feel threaten from a little kid because they know that they are just terrorists who took something does not belong to them !!!!

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  19. Sally Rubis at |

    The actual truth is that Isreali soldiers carry the legacy of Soviet terrorist thugs, and as those who came before them so they to carry out the work of their father, which is Satan.

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  20. Moshe Organ-Theft at |

    The Zionist criminal network that spans across the world protects its demonic foot soldiers, in any civilised country, this man would be executed for a brutal child murder.

    Talmudic indoctrination makes them insane murderers without conscience.

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  21. I say Truth at |

    Israel is a professional terrorist state. The are hypocrite and backed by other hypocrites like U.S.A and European countries.

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